As on the german server we should discuss two options to have a better knight-field-ratio:

1) reduce number of fields (perhaps only europe...)

2) second knight for every player (only available for players who are not in the connection list - who see no executioner...)

The second option is easier to do because there is nothing to do for me and the ones who likes only have to make a second account.

Why? Because there are few knights for the map. The map was made for 1500 - 3000 knights and we will not reach this number.....

Please discuss it.

Hi Hoern!

I have a question to 1 options.

sounds interesting, and We had been here a similar proposal some time ago, is there any example of a map? suggested, or any ?. Selecting this option without knowing how it will look is quite risky

how it will look like.
combination of several provinces in one large?

The second option is much less risky and in that sense preferable. In concert with this, another change would be for all shires except the castle shire to have only five fiefs. And of course the formula for determining the number of counts one may appoint could be adjusted along the lines suggested by Kashif.

I've been thinking about solutions to the problem alluded to for some time, as it happens.

In particular, how about a merge of RH and KH:
- Both German and English to be the official languages, but perhaps there would be separate English and German taverns. It would be an interesting new challenge to play a bilingual game, but we have to do something.
- Knights stay in the same nation*,**
- Knights retain their equipment, stats, fiefs***
- Nations get reset to their castle shires and the six nearest shires (or less if the merged nation is less than 21 Knights)
- Roles: Everyone gets reset to ordinary Knight, except there is a negotiation between the KH and RH kings as to who becomes King; alternatively a second blue position (i.e. two protectors) could be created. This could be the "Marshal" or something. The number of free Chancellors could be raised.
- Boards: The non role-play boards are merged. The role play boards (including national boards) are archived and new ones created.

*Some players have Knights in both KH and RH, in some cases in different nations. To avoid having Knights in two different nations in the merged game, such players would have to choose one of the nations and then both Knights would be in that nation. And to make it fair, all players would be allowed two Knights (but only in the same nation). Alternatively players of both games could choose which Knight to keep.

**Not all nations are in both games. Either increase the number of nations to the union of the two games or map non-common nations somehow. In the former case the number of shires would probably need to be increased slightly.

***Fiefs will need to be moved into the shires near the castle; the maximum number of fiefs per shire should be increased to ensure there are enough fiefs to accommodate all Knights (but with the tax penalty, of course).

lol. nope

You oversee another problem Smelgar, the Balcans would become heavingly overcrowed (Hungary on german server also has about 70 Knights, Macedonia (former Serbs here) are about 50 or 60 on german server.

A second character will increase number of players for about 10 to 20 percent, so we will certainly remain below 1000.

About first point, leaving Jerusalem out of game would leave a major spot of war out of game...

EDIT: Think first of all we should reduce the number of castles, maybe skip some shires in the east.

To put both games together seems an interesting option. How about a reset and closing both games. Premium Accounts will be tranfered to the new game. And than we just have an international Version of this game.

Jata Lubomirski wrote:

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lol. nope

Jata - I expected better from you - very disappointing response.

Jessica - the Balkans issue is in fact the main reason why I suggest adding a few shires (although I didn't make this clear). To be clear: add few shires in that region (which is also where the major non-common nations are).

As I first said, I think it would be OK to add a second Knight per player (would have to be in the same nation however). Unfortunately, there is a more fundamental problem in that the number of genuinely active players in KH is now too low to be sustainable (about half of what it was a year ago, I would guess). This is not the case in RH, and would be even less true of the merged game.

It might be for you, but not for me
And I am quite certain within one year the english-speaking will be in minority or click-player...

Here how I would swage the map:

Bedouins castle is most southern and most eastern point of (new) map, Antioch should disappear leaving some space for a new arabic Nation.
Persia, Seljuka, Georgia, Circassins will disappear, Khazar is free to move for Kasan or Mordvins (before it will disappear too).

Second southern idea would be Tourag castle most southern... but since Fatimids and Bedouins right now do keep the game alive this might cause a lot of strife...

Northern it is getting interesting too, think Veps to become northern most castle, Finns and Iceland to disappear OR moving Finns castle on Turku 211, leaving this as northernmost castle (increasing pressure of Norsemen towards center europe).

Prussia should disappear, same as Brittany, Leon and Berbers.

I too am concerned about English becoming "second class", or alternatively that an attempt to maintain it as first class drives away German players.

So there is another possibility that I have been thinking about.

I have observed several players who started in RH, came to KH (as well) and then gave up their KH character but continued to play RH.

I have it in mind making it easier for such players to play both, as follows:
- a single premium account gets premium in both RH and KH.
- all RH players (both premium and not) get the option (at one time only) to create a KH character that is a clone of their RH character (equipment, fiefdom etc). So they have a well built up character and don't have to go back to square one

That is, rather than a straight merge of the two, RH characters would be copied and merged into KH.

But I repeat, the fundamental problem is the number of active players (as opposed to click players and formerly active players who are now click players) in KH. Reducing the number of fields or nations will not alter that.