Lady Lilith wrote:
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I don't think forcing your opponent to negotiate can be taken in consideration, except for the bullies. The relationship was damaged so badly that they refuse to talk in this moment.. Taking steps in improving this can be recommended: a better offer spiced with some friendly actions maybe, especially in the case of those who have nothing more to lose.
My relationship with them is fine - but they have always told me they won't negotiate, since they are not interested in any negotiated settlement, and indeed are quite comfortable with the war continuing indefinitely This is because they regard it as purely a war game, with no scope for anything else, including diplomacy.
This is exactly the same situation as with the original Hungarians, although, unlike Alrik in that case, I would not regard that situation as continuing past the cessation of the current Pecheneg nation.