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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 01:51:17 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 12:50:57 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
I think only that in the future for avoid this problem we simply should choice a Pope and he/she must be inside Papal States


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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 12:59:17 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Kalisto Dalenen wrote:
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I think only that in the future for avoid this problem we simply should choice a Pope and he/she must be inside Papal States
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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 13:52:34 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Norbert Valentin wrote:
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Kalisto Dalenen wrote:
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I think only that in the future for avoid this problem we simply should choice a Pope and he/she must be inside Papal States
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Yah but consider all this chaos is your fault. You should ask to Denis first about this and take a pact about papal election. Pope in RP there was yet, so no need more chaos, it's wrong that he isn't inside papal states? SImply he wil be the last one.....

No need all that confusion

if you decide to become a king suddenly you also should know that some consequence MAY follow your decisions....


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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 13:55:58 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
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Abel Syarco has informed me that there might soon be a vacancy at the head of the Papal States.

I originally naturally assumed that Abel Syarco was the Pope, after all he is the head of the Papal States and that's what it says in his profile.

I later learned, that the pope is currently an NPC of Denis de Fecamp.

I think a NPC pope is quite a ridiculous idea - sorry folks who voted that idea into being some time ago, but I really think being pope should be a full time job. Now is the chance to remedy this state of affairs.

It would seem sensible to me to consider the following options:

1. Denis de Fecamp could move to the Vatican, become head of the Papal States and be a proper full-time pope, if he still wants the job and is supported by a majority of the Catholic nations.

or

2. There could be proper papal elections.

I would assume that anyone who wanted to be pope could present his candidacy and credentials in an appropriate time-frame of perhaps 2-4 weeks. Then

A. everyone could then vote on who would be pope in RP
B. Or every Catholic nation would vote, with one vote per nation,
C. or every Catholic nation could vote [i]with one vote per ten knights[/i] (which option seems to me best suited to ensure that the pope would have the neccessary support of the Catholic monarchs)
D. or whichever other arrangement seems suitable.
(Anyone who does not like to write could merely send a note in RP with whom they vote for).

If there was no absolute majority for a candidate in the first round of voting, there could be a second ballot or runoff voting between those candidates who received most votes in the first round. The winner would then get to be pope and move to the Vatican to be pope and head of the Catholic Church.

If everyone else is happy with the current state of affairs and an NPC pope, then you can simply leave things as they are and have another secular, instead of religious leader of the Papal States after Abel Syarco. But if anyone else thinks that we can do better for the Catholic Church and this game here's the chance to change things.


I wish you will ALL read AGAIN these wise words....

I neither know actually how votes are counted and who choice it second thing Friederich crowned Denis as Pope (npc ok)......how we can explain this RP break? there is no explanation....

So in middle of this absurd RP Denis choice the best thing to do-> let pope suddenly die without any explanation.....NICEEEEE (ironicaly)


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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 14:01:37 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
it would be important, even if Italy would participate in our CR. May I invite you to this?

Basically, the Pope should not be selected from nations. Rather, it should be a strong ecclesiastical structure that elects him.

I have in mind since before the principle that each nation is a Catholic bishop. Particularly strong nations an archbishop. Cardinals should be appointed by the Pope according to their person, regardless of the nations. The bishops should only give advice, the right to vote should be limited to the archbishops and cardinals.

That would be my general approach.
 
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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 14:49:26 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
I wish partecipate and invite rhodry please too

however the death of last pope will have bad consequence i think


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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 15:39:43 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Rhodry there is already represented in the CR.
Now I have since also been invited.

Basically, a papal election will be conducted.
The question is, who can vote for all.
 
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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 15:49:18 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Norbert Valentin wrote:
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it would be important, even if Italy would participate in our CR. May I invite you to this?

Basically, the Pope should not be selected from nations. Rather, it should be a strong ecclesiastical structure that elects him.


You still didn't get it that a pope not supported by the catholic nations is for null, didn't you?

@Kalisto: Take care of your postings there, Norbert likes deleting a lot, including kicking.


 
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Re:Papacy and possibility of papal elections      14.12.2011 16:50:42 --- 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
@Jessica noticed that.

just deleted my post where i agreed with first post...BAH

@Nobert

You invite to SPEAK THEN YOU DELETE OTHERS POST? ok that's enough for me!

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, NO EXCUSE!


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