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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      25.08.2010 00:00:08 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
All is ok, except there is a confusion between CF and CF quotes. The mods don't attempt to moderate CF's but CF quotes, who is a text like any other text on the board.

Somebody argue they contain OOC, the mods will deal with those in the same way a normal post contain OOC, what is the problem?

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CF stuff is unofficial stuff and posting it as RP breaches any RP rule.

wohoho, there are rules about unofficial stuff who forbid to be used? I didn't see any. So stop speaking about breaching the rules when there is no rule. In fact thats why we are talking here, because it isn't any rule!
About unofficial or official stuff, there are written words on a board, what more we can ask for a RP stuff?

The only problems comes with authenticity, privacy and getting out of the context.

1.Authenticity can be easily check it by allowing the mod access to that board. There is more authenticity that SS we use as prove to suspend somebody.

2. Privacy. Hoern says he is not happy with PM's posting because of that. Even the name of the message suggest it's private. Still he didn't says: shoot on site! just that kind of action is not recommended and it's easy to understand why.
In the case of CF's there isn't so much privacy involved, people get in or out, the posts remain (if not deleted), so even it's not open to everybody, there isn't the same case as PM's.

3. Getting out of context. There is a problem, but that problem appear all the time in all the topics, regardless if it's CF's quotes or Diplomacy board quotes. A word of advice: if it's a written word, take care what you write down and you won't be in fear to be quoted.

The CF's quotes are useful and fun for RP, in order to get down the masks of the actors. There are limits CF's quotes can be used, like OOC comments, foul language not allowed, sexist, racist comments and so the rules state, but that's the usual rules of RP's

If you'll stop make confusion between CF and CF's quotes and treat CF's quotes as it is, a text, you'll clearly see that.
More than that, I hate people starting to make rules according to their interests in a certain moment, I see that like a sort of cheating, trying to have an unfair advantage in the game by making a new rule.
I didn't quote CF's, I was the target of that quotes, still I'm able to judge what's for the game, not for my char to benefit.
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      25.08.2010 08:46:40 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Gregory I wrote:
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wohoho, there are rules about unofficial stuff who forbid to be used? I didn't see any. So stop speaking about breaching the rules when there is no rule. In fact thats why we are talking here, because it isn't any rule!


Well, how about common sense than? You can't regulate that.

Also, if there are no rules at all than we should eliminate RP altogether because its not regulated anywhere and since its not regulated than it goes against the official rules of the game. Who invented RP anyway? Let's just all talk like we know eachother for years and get over with it.

If you want a strict application of your statement than that's what can be understood.

Indeed RP has NO official rules at all, but for some weird reason everybody knows what to do and what not to do when RP'ing, like not posting CF stuff on the forum, especially without mutual consent (which happens the most often). But for the same weird reasons some people choose to act against the generally accepted meaning of the word RP, just because they are pissed at someone and they feel like bringing "solid" evidence on the table in order to discredit that individual.

Than again, perhaps we should regulate RP and solve this issue for good. By regulating RP than we would avoid such debates and we would avoid having CF quotations or entire paragraphs posted in the RP section. In my opinion any posting from a CF room (especially without mutual consent) goes against the whole idea of RP because CF stuff is not meant to be RP. OR we can begin RP'ing in the CF again which will soon be tiresome.
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      25.08.2010 10:33:42 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
One more thing, which was drawn to my attention: I for one have nothing against posting in RP details that are discussed in CF rooms, given that they are posted as RP, given that the information posted has the consent of all the parties involved and given that no texts whatsoever are taken from the CF discussions and copied in the RP board.
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      25.08.2010 12:30:52 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
*rolls her eyes* Wow talk about an over kill... Well since we will over kill let us add a new section! No CF stuff not even mention of CFs! As that makes an unfair point in RP that as you state you would like, can not be backed up! Pfft talk about common sense or lack there of.
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      26.08.2010 01:30:55 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Why you people don't stop making rules and regulations where is no need of that, since we have mods to deal with RP and rules about how to deal with RP? Why you don't just stop killing people's fun with the only argument based on common sense? What is CF? A board. How it will be against the common sense to quote what's RP in that board?
Even PM's can be quoted if its RP written.

You can vote all day long, in the end its for Hoern to decide if your vote is beneficial to the game. I'll be more interested in a response to the arguments mentioned in this topic before jumping with the vote, also a reference about how the problem is dealt in RH will be of interest, since they use to settle the things pretty well.
An experienced player from RH, please can tell us how the problem is dealt there?
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      27.08.2010 10:58:52 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Gregory I wrote:
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Even PM's can be quoted if its RP written.


IF indeed.

The problem is not with mentioning things that were discussed in private or in CF, but the fact that there were posts in the Diplomacy board which virtually quoted non-RP PM's and non-RP CF messages. Sometimes the quoted messages were in their entirety.

That is the king of behavior I do not agree with. I'm not against posting in RP sections stuff that is re-written under a RP form and on which there is common consent.
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      27.08.2010 12:59:51 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
What I find interesting about this is:

1. No proposal has been made (so far).

2. Nevertheless, a majority of Council has voted "No" (to something).

3. And, despite the conclusive vote, the discussion continues...

Very strange. As Al Hakam said, I wonder what's next?


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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      27.08.2010 16:40:03 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Can a RP-Mod close this topic please?
 
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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      27.08.2010 16:56:43 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
My thoughts exactly...


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Re:Fair posting of conf room messages in RP-boards      27.08.2010 22:12:18 --- 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
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