He received another letter and crumbled the letter and knew the truth.

QUOTE:
To Del Rey of Spain,

Too bad you have no ability to speak the truth of Council. It is YOU that is being blind to the truth not me nor Molly. Here are several paintings of council for proof your memory is faulty....

*Painting number one from CF over this matter. Exact replica of Dip letter spoken in CF.*

*Painting number two from the CF. Further establishing what we say!*

*Painting number three of Molly's spoken words from the records of the CF. Stating she was tired of both you and England attempting to play her while she had been ill. The comments as transcribed after further showed releif of the other nations and allies present to not have the behavior blocking real progress.*

Plus my statement in the CF trying to calm the storm if you remember right when you and the King of England got into a dispute:

*painting of my own presence.*


But no, you went on to your Childish ways like a child who got put in the corner with behavior and declare War on us.

However, you may accuse me for learning from Molly but I consider this as do most Irish a compliment. For Molly saw how you were using her to gain your personal glory in the world, and still stood by you, holding your own hand, and never forcing you into her own troubles...

...If this is half the measure of a great person, than Molly sure gave you far more of a chance. You have lied to the worlds face which is that of a real greedy coward....

..Dishonoring those who gave you honor to begin with. For you do not have to answer to us. You have to answer to Molly. The world now knows the truth. You lied because you were told no. You were told no as you did not respect your friends long wishes of time to finish in the North. What harm is England causing you or Castille by holding even temperarily one single shire that was Molly's business?

Ah the real dictator has surface, and it wasn't Molly or the Irish, but you in your attempts to sew your wild seeds with the Glory of being able to force and control your neighbors through their neighbors. This is no real Christian, but Molly is far better at explaining the Holy word. The Irish know you lie to get your way, and you have no honor. This is all we need to know, and what is worse! You proved King Gregory right! How shameful is this?

To prove your own enemy correct and righteous, and that is just the opposite of what an enemy should do!

But I tell you what for your friendship that Molly painstakingly put so much effort and time with, now, no obvious return or appriciation for I as acting leader of Ireland will offer you one chance at forgiveness, in such a manner that Molly would have to agree when she is well and free again.

The terms are simple...
1. Apologize for the foolishness and hard words spoken to friends.
2. Go North and free the Irish from their tomb of imprisonment.

Of this in completion I am sure honor can return to your brow, and your friendship hold some weight with Molly's known high level of forgiveness.

Denial only proves continued sinning against the Holy Father Molly takes such great pride in, as well as you were never her friend.

Majestic
Chancellor of Ireland

He sealed the letter quickly and sent it on its way to Spain to the King only.

QUOTE:
Green is IC and black is OCC as it is shown to show the difference for Molly's quote but for myself black was IC for my quote.

QUOTE:


Regent of Ireland,

It is well and fine for you to do such things when you know that since my leaving of the council I cannot respond in kind. Cherry picking the truth is such a manner proves nothing and convinces still fewer. However let us take the words you have chosen on their faith.

1) The Irish Queen has no authority to demand anything from Spain or England in regards to their relations to the other. Indeed both nations were quite plain and forceful in that you were not welcome in this dispute.

2) "Do not tempt me to return down to war there again! It is because of the Irish Leon still survives" from your queens own mouth towards Castille... were it not for Ireland their lands would never have been threatened to begin with.

3) "You broke our treaty, and now gain a new enemy. " also from your queens own mouth.. defacto declaration of war upon Spain compounded by a lie. Refuting her authority to mediate a dispute that has nothing to do with her but thwarting her desire is not breaking of a treaty; or rather to no-one except her. Should I sit around waiting for one who has declared herself my enemy to attack me when it is convenient for her? I think not sir.... I think not. Her wishes were plain enough however you wish to sugar coat them. To delay me until she finished to turn upon me for the high crime of disagreement.

4) Your queen announced her intent to withdraw from the war in the North as quickly as possible to attack England, Spain and Castille because neither of us would bow to her whim.... "punish the children of the south and England" as she so quaintly put it

5) you speak of treaties as though they should be binding to a nation in Castille who never signed them. You have had claim or right over Seville and were always guests in Iberia upon our allowance as friends not by right. A right that you abused by provoking war and genocide upon our shores bullying smaller nations into following your step. You are not the rulers of Iberia sir, nor are you of Europe. And I will make sure you remember it in future.

6) You responded to an offer of friendship by Castille who said "we hope for friendship and partnership" with Ireland by threatening to destroy them? This is not the act of a sensible or peace loving nation, it seems both are but words to bandy about to again... make yourselves feel better about the horror you inflict upon the world with your endless war mongering.

7) Gregory responded to your calls for mediation by sending mercenaries to attack Spain. The proof of your calls for peace do indeed seem to be proven one sided as we heard nothing but threats towards us and our ally while they marched ever closer to our boarders. The timing of our attack was no coincidental, but coincided precisely to their sighting off our shores while you said nothing.

Ireland is indeed not owed an apology from Spain, though she may receive one should she being to act in a dignified manner as though she were a Nation due one. For now I apologize that such actions have become necessary and to your people who must endure such hardship as a result of the path your Ruler has taken you. I apologize that I signed a treaty without knowing that the woman of honor who was leaving would be replaced by one who does not know who her friends would be if she would but treat them with respect. I am sorry my friend that you do not see the truth beyond your blind affection for a woman who spurned you for another man.

But while you are making demands I make a few of you as well. Our demands are fairly simple.

1) Denunciation of all claims to land in Iberia
2) The evacuation of all lands on the mainland of the European continent, specifically... but not limited to, those around Brittany to allow that nation to grow.
3) Public support for Castille's reclaiming of Sevillia from England
4) Open and public submission to the Holy See in Rome, or the Orthodox Church in Byzantium, and denunciation of Gregory as a heretic.
5) Unconditional surrender to all terms and conditions put forward to you by the forces of the North, Poland, and Lithuania

Do not test my patience with such absurdities again. You have dug your own bed by squandering good will around the globe with your endless petulant ranting. Lie there until you are done bandying words about hoping that if you scream them loud enough or repeat them often enough that someone might actually believe you... Your list of friends grows shorter than the temper of the woman you landed you where you are now. I will not free you from a prison you built with your own tongues, and the bitter rage in your hearts.

If and when you are willing to talk sense with a civil tongue, then we shall speak on diplomatic matters again and perhaps we may yet save Ireland from the mess she has found herself in.

-Charles Hart
-Rey de Espania

"Um, your Majesty?"

"Yes Thomas?" Charles asked as he attended to his task with the messenger bird.

"What are you doing?"

"Just a little gift for our Irish friends,"

Charles chuckled softly and let the bird fly from his hands carrying the message, and a small clipping of the banner of Spain which now flies over their lands tied to his leg.

"Was it wise to provoke them so?"

"Didn't you read Thomas? They make war on the world with Gregory, what have they to fear from words of mine?"

A new message arrives and ignores the banner on the leg of the bird then reads the message. His stomach turned and felt disgusted in his words.

QUOTE:
Del Rey of Spain,

It is funny how your poor vision Charles effects the clarity of thinking. Looking at the marked days of the Banrions words before your removal from the CF. Molly requested. It is odd to me a request means demand to you. As I was always under the impression request meant to ask not demand. In fact...

I thought the word request meant the act of asking for something to be given or done, especially as a favor or courtesy. This is the true definition, and I clearly see how Molly said request several times.Thus your argument is void by logic, and actuality again...

Your claims over Leon being threatened due to Ireland is actually false. As the nation of Andulsia was only looking for an individual to pick on. Thus they chose a nation whom they believed they could defeat alone. They did not anticipate the Leon king requesting aide, and agreeing to work with Ireland do to the already in progress attacks from Andulsia. I was there, and recall full well.

In fact you did break the treaty. You did it with your own quill. Molly did not. You can not blame her for your acts, and as such sadly Molly's made her choice. Still I am the one ruling the country now also by Molly's own choice.

In fact Molly has no desire Charles. It was you who requested Molly to stop Gregory I. There were witnesses including my own eyes. Do I again need to have paintings drawn up to show your own many attempts to force Molly?

So Charles you couldn't force Molly to put Ireland in way for your arguments that held no water, you couldn't get her to do as you wanted with insults, so you decided to continue to force her hand, rape, with this attack? How is this honor?

Rape- to seize, take, or carry off by force.
The Irish and Molly want nothing to do with your sinning Charles, and further more we are not oppressed as Molly has repeatedly given the Irish their force with promise of only her cooperation, and no reprocussions. Now what is your next lie and accusation with no weight? What else can you possibly make up in your head to defile this woman of grace? What else can you conjure up to attempt to certify rape of the Irish?
If I had to answer the questions it would be I cant, I am just a sinner, and a bad bad man, but I am not you am I?

I would actually say I am not the one lying, or raping an innocent nation. A nation that would give in to your attempts to force domination. This would fit your description though wouldn't it?
Indeed I would say it is you Charles who have abused Molly and all of Ireland. How is this a good Christian? As I said Molly is the one better at religion. Is it possible for you to answer a question directly for once?

The mess Ireland was put in by Molly? By not being a submissive slave to you? You admit in your request you are now in bed with the heretics of the north? Your terms are not acceptable. It is you again in your words who make a mockery of the human language. Allow me a moment to show you some of your own lines that pushed the Banrion into concern over you...

"So don't talk to me about who doesn't belong here. "

"Which I cannot but think you do not hold as highly as I do while you defend Greg so stoutly with the conversations on the subject we have had."

"my words and intentions have been stated and I do expect the backing of my friend and ally in this. "

"I have reset my diplomacy in accordance with reality of a snake"

You know Charles I happen to know you had Molly in complete tears. First you hadn't spoken to her in weeks. You didn't even know how ill she had been. Then the first time she hears from you is demands, and attempts to force? What part of rape is misunderstood?

Of course she would be defensive against you and all of your attempts to manipulate her while she was not well. Greg continued to listen to her, and gave her time even though he was booted and threated and requested to. Greg gave her simple decency you expect, but do not seem to offer. You demanded Ireland fight with you knowing full well they were in a war they couldn't just walk away from. You know full well the murderous intent of Dietrich in fact you were the first one to warn her! You knew she couldn't just walk away in the middle of a war.

What does it matter if England had Elite militia or not? Are you saying the great nation of Castille couldn't handle this otherwise undefended shire? As you point out they were not in treaty thus not bound to listen or respect Molly, let alone the friendship, and Molly fully expected Castille to do as they wished, taking it back, and Spain defending them as allies! They never did, instead they tried to force an already massively consumed nation who was extremely vulnerable and reliant on your so called friendship, to help them. You did not but tried to force them into a war they couldn't fight, and you knew it.
Then when you couldn't force. Neither side could force! You decided to gain in physicalness, and lies. Raping the nation and friendship. You are no Christian, Charles. You were never a friend either. You are a tyrant, abusive, dominating, rapist, and will force you will where it shouldn't be, and that is on those who stood by you when the rest of the world wouldn't, those who listened to your sorrows and pains, even though you were not their for theirs! How are you anything you attempt to brag to be? How are you not what we say you are?

While we are at it.. You point out the Castille's letter, since I apparently know Molly far more than you for as much as she treasured your friendship. Allow me to point out things I know she stated upset her of these letters supposedly requesting peace!

"d. Alas, we cannot recognize your presumed hegemony over the lands of the Iberian Peninsula."
"to act at your whimsical behest is in itself prideful and void of wisdom."

"That you believe it is Castile, and not England, that has pushed you for too long in this matter casts aspersions on the honor and nobility of our knights and this will not be soon forgotten."

"The lands of Iberia will be ruled by Iberian kings, not some foreign tyrant excommunicated by our Holy Father in Rome for his prolonged transgressions against god-fearing Christians. "

"You speak of wisdom and yet you recklessly forsake the King of Spain as if he were a beggar in the street and not the man of honor he has proven himself to be time and again."

"Moreover, you have turned your back on God by supporting the heretic King of England, embracing his excommunication as if it were a small and meaningless thing."

"I beseech thee to show restraint so that this matter may be resolved peacefully. "

Interesting choice of words from a man who knows nothing of Molly, and dare question her faith. Why Charles you should know how badly a request for peace and friendship goes to insult Molly's faith. Especially as an unknown individual. Iindividual as this king was to Molly. You always told her to take her word, and at this kings first chance to impress Molly with his greatness. He fell about five hundred yards short of the target. This is no manner in which to introduce oneself for the first time. Let alone to request peace and friendship. Nay instead the king further continues to show his inability to be righteous and Holy by joining in on the raping of Ireland rather than even attempt to claim what he thinks is his? Right!

So Molly took on your dip chancellor who was at least full of some sort of ability to recognize, but sadly as well she furthered the issue. As for Molly it was no longer about England and Spain. It seems pretty obvious it was about all the small things you said, and this other king said that were so disrespectful and improper. Thus if you wish to blame any ones words. Blame your own, as it is you two who attempted to force a woman who was not only fully engrossed in another war, but hadn't been well for sometime. A fact if you were really her friend as you claims you would have known. Wouldn't you have?



Majestic
Chancellor of Ireland
Royal Seal

Sealed with wax and sent it away on the foot of the Black Raven

QUOTE:


Regent,

Nothing is a request that is backed by the threat of waging war on an ally who has acted in good faith by repeatedly protesting actions only to ultimately have them thrown in their face again and again. I do not feel sorry if I upset your Queen, for it is she who has brought us to this and nothing you say changes these facts however you twist the reality. That I was in dispute with Gregory is not in question but it was her instituting herself into the middle of the conflict and threatening myself and yet *another* of my neighbors with being obliterated off the face of the map... and then including Spain in the process that has caused it. And still I did not stop our treaty. Indeed the treaty was not stopped until the words of Molly, "I am your enemy.." to paraphrase. Those instigated a declaration of war and the voiding of the treaty between our peoples... not before however you attempt to falsely re-write history to suit whatever lie she has told you to tell here. Disagreement with the Queen of Ireland is not the same as voiding a treaty however broach it.


I know to well both your ways of bandying about the truth as though it were clay to be molded to your satisfaction, I have seen you avarice and spite on display in full glory time and time again and advised restraint, caution urged you to temper yourselves... and indeed it is this that resulted on Ireland turning it's back on Spain when time and time again we have come to your aid when called diplomatically, with intelligence, and with our armies when called. Ireland too has answered the call of the treaty, but this does not excuse her words or actions and no one who reads those words and substitutes themselves as the subject can but see a threat of war when she used the same words to begin the war in the north to begin with!

You speak of her letter in response to my minister but her words there just confirmed that war was inevitable and she was stalling for time. Had she been sincere she knew the path to take... and she chose not to. A friendship is not one sided, nor is it down to one party to always be the one to make amends and I will not play that game of manipulation. She turned her back on me long ago, I was just the fool who believed her afterward.

To be hurt my words of mine you must have a heart, and your Queen has shown she has none by declaring a true friend an enemy based on the word of a villain.

-Charles Hart
-Rey de Espania

After his Rey showing Tehalon of Derby the letters from the irish liar, he must laugh loudly.

He was always a quiet person, that´s why the people often forget his attendance and that´s why he know the true. He also read the words Molly had spoken. Yes she said first who attack have problems, but that was days ago. A day later she called all armys back to direclty attack us.
Furthermore he commanded the spanish army whose order among others was defending irish shires. So he know that her first destination was the castle. First after Molly declared war on spain they moved to attack.

So he said only a few words to his rey:
"Ask him what he thinks why we first moved back home and don´t start an instant attack on irish shires. I wonder what a lie he invent for this fact.
So or so let them squeak. That´s all what they still have! They should come and see what to get here in our land..."

He leave the tent and give an order to his seargent:
"Let´s move on, there´re a lot of shires left to free of irish hands"

Former farm hand Carlos. Now scribe in training fulfills his orders to provide copies of the recorded CF to all pertinent parties. As well a secondary addition of other documents, and letters to the king of Spain.

Irelands Conference room one... Conversation of war.:
Re:Allies 15.08.2010 00:24:13 --- 1 Week ago
Gregory I wrote:

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I have enough with Charles hart betrayal on my hands, he would not even had a nation to lead if it wasn't me to act in Spain support, but this idiot who take advantage England is busy with the war really piss me off.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 00:28:53 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

QUOTE:
I love you too Greg. :laugh:

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 00:32:43 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

QUOTE:
My armies were standing guard over allied lands while yours were still playing grab ass with the Order and Castille, while you let others do the fighting in a conflict you helped provoke to allow you to settle grudges that had nothing to do with this alliance. So don't talk to me about who doesn't belong here.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 00:46:03 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

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"Allow a day off because I felt amazing! Then I return to this. Well allow me! THAT WILL BE ENOUGH OF THIS!

Gregory please, with all due respect as my friend, check your words. Charles allow me to clarify, if you turn on England you are turning on Ireland, do you really want to take this route? Gregory is not perfect, but he is hardly as bad as those you describe. Not to mention the countless talks we have had! I do not like being pitted between siblings at all. You two must work this out!

The nation that Gregory attacks, and you defend Charles have not been the greatest of neighbors. Not to mention are still newer to our neighborhood. Greg I request you do pull back from the order at least! I had no idea these attacks are still going on.

I agree if it wasn't for Greg Spain wouldn't have had the position it is in now! Need I need to remind you I personally prevented Danish attack on your lands Charles? You two NEED to learn to get along! This said Molly is PISSED OFF now! You two better frigging get it together!"

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 00:50:55 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

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"Adding on to Alrik... Darling I am sorry I am pissy now, and want to go after 159. I request your army Siegfried's friend join me, as I AM going in regardless. I want to physically remove the Nordish from there myself.

To everyone else I best begin to hear some apologies, as I am TIRED of everyone else having personal issues, and trying to effect me!"

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:12:45 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

QUOTE:
I have reset my diplomacy in accordance with reality of a snake who, yes, I did catch spewing ignorant trash about me in this very CF. You know very well this only waited THIS long because of previous assurances I had from you and his response to that has been to fortify the shire in question with elite militia.

The 'friendship" between Spain and England is over and has been for a long time and you well know the reasons for it. How this goes from here depends entirely on him.

And no, I won't be apologizing to Greg any time soon unless there is an amazing 180 in the way he conducts himself... which I won't be holding my breath for.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:29:07 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
"You both have spoken poorly of the other! IS this how little Ireland, and more importantly your friendship with me is? Think even more carefully of your response Charles."

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:31:42 --- 1 Week ago
Gregory I wrote:

QUOTE:
Since Spain is doing nothing in this war, I insist the spy Charles Hart to be removed from this CF that we can make our plans without our enemies to be informed.

I didn't attack Spain or Charles Hart as he attacked me on the Diplomacy Board, twice already. I didn't change the diplomacy like he did, threatening England. I didn't choose the path of confrontation when we are busy in the war, especially by the one just stand and do nothing like joining the fights, because he is a coward and a noob.
Since he threat England, I ask my brother ally Ireland to stand by me in the same way I stand for Ireland.

Spanish army is near my border, he plan carefully the moment, I could not let my lands undefended. But if you pull back Spain, by changing the diplomacy towards them, they could not attack my lands from your lands, I will personally join the fights with England Pride army.

About the Order, I will drop them now as you ask it.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:35:13 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

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No you didn't chose that moment Greg, you just used it as an excuse to get away with whatever you wanted to do.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:37:36 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

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Molly how important Ireland is to me and Spain hinges on our friendship. Which I cannot but think you do not hold as highly as I do while you defend Greg so stoutly with the conversations on the subject we have had.

it is up to you how you proceed, my words and intentions have been stated and I do expect the backing of my friend and ally in this.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:50:43 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
"Okkkkkkkkkkkkkk since both friends have asked for standing holding the same amount of history and treaty with me. I WILL not choose a side. I will NOT join in on this childish fighting. I will say it out right. Greg I think you are wrong in your possession of the land down there. As the only interest you had was because of Ireland to begin with.

Charles I think you are wrong! As England is friend, and ally to me to! Greg I appreciate you pulling back from the order, as I thought you had ages ago! This said I say this.

The first nation who is attacked by the other shall have the defenses of Ireland and MY wrath! Neither one has my permission to attack the other. Charles your selective memory and attempts to drag me down a level isn't helpful. Not in the least!

Yes in the past Greg and I had massive troubles. We probably will again! Yes Greg upset and hurt me with his attacks on the Order, and on the Penn. This is normal for relationships! Greg works hard now to respect this friendship. I do not want either one of you to believe that I wont drop this war, I want, and come back down to deal with squabbling siblings! I will if I have to!

Charles at this time has done nothing to make me believe yet that he is sabotaging this unity. Except forgetting the fact that I said to give me time, possibly until the end of the northern war to deal with the Penn. Pushing me is never a good idea. I am not a dust bunny you can blow around with a simple breath of word. Neither of you have me very happy at this time. Yes Charles I do mean in all lands currently occupied. We have a simple task! Nothing more!

This said that silver shire belongs by all legality to Ireland! It is asked to be made free, and maintained free until Ireland can come back down there themselves, and hold it. NO ONE has permission to hold it any more. I will not have it as a reason to break up my alliances!"

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:51:31 --- 1 Week ago
Gregory I wrote:

QUOTE:
Enjoy your last moments as king, because there will be no kingdom for you after I will erase it from the map and I always keep my promises.

Imazighen beats you with 10 knights, imagine how it will be when 30 English knights, all better than yourself will run after you. Be prepared, idiot!

As far as I know, the silver shire belongs to England. On what right you ask from us, Molly?
I feel betrayed and my trust in our alliance with Ireland shaken. I will call our armies back, ready to defend our lands, if thats what you want, Molly.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 01:57:05 --- 1 Week ago
Gregory I wrote:

QUOTE:
Remove me from this CF, I feel I don't belong here anymore.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 02:03:05 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
Denied!

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 02:31:00 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
"Here is a fact Charles may not know! Ireland offered Castille friendship and a treaty with her, and was thus denied! They refused our alliance. As such as far as I am concerned they can rot with out any concern, and it should NOT be effecting Ireland now! I kept quiet as they stole our lands, and didn't mutter a word. Simply an allowance of time, and of pay backs for them allowing us to pass by their castle during the Andulsia war. Just marked it to later be dealt with. Thus I care not what Gregory does to them. I am more concerned my friend Charles and ally Spain chooses them above me and Ireland!"

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 02:53:56 --- 1 Week ago
Charles Hart wrote:

QUOTE:
Curious way to look at it Molly, most curious. I choose them over Greg for they are more trustworthy... vast difference; and I chose them over a Greg who attacked them without cause, warning, or reason simply to seize land he was never entitled to.... as we have both agreed. As you have stated previously Castille did allow us free passage through their lands in the Andalusian conflict and were but a baby of a nation at the time. Since they have shown remarkable bravery and tenaciousness fighting against impossible odds against an outside aggressor. Such courage is to be applauded and the cowardice that prompted the attack condemned. I was satisfied with leaving it at that... apparently Greg is not.

Greg decide to make an issue out of me informing him of a diplomatic change between our nations on the boards here, and decided to kick it up to adversarial status now instead of when the Northern war was over as intended. Now or then if England attacks Spain I will gut his armies, his earlier statements just show his ignorance of events in Spain since I took over and the relative strength of his own. So be it, it would not the first time Greg led a doomed crusade without thinking through the consequences of his actions. Besides, we both know this really about my re-purposing a CF for personal use and so removing him from it.

The man who was to be their king had not yet even arrived in Castille when they rejected your treaty offer Molly, and thus the authority to make and sign said treaty was not there, nor should they expect within moments of their founding when thrust in the middle of a war they had no part in to pick sides. Deal with them as the noble soul you are as sovereign in their own right and I suspect you shall find them, as I have, most agreeable to working together from here.

My armies are held in the defense of allied nations whose knights are all off fighting in this war, I do not have to defend this decision for myself in not desiring to send my knights so far from home. You can argue that there might be a better use for them Alrik, and I will listen for I respect you as a leader and as a friend, but that is the decision I made with the advise of my councilors and nobles for reasons of my own.

I have no intention of attacking England at this time, but I will respond to any attack on Spain by them relentlessly until Greg understands the folly of his actions. As I say, my act was making sure he knew how seriously I take his actions to the South and he had two options with it; which he still does. Reconciliation or to make me his enemy... the choice my friends is entirely his for I am open to either.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 03:28:36 --- 1 Week ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
"The authority was there, so do not play dumb with me. After the end of the Andulsian war it was offered to the highest bidder! A nasty fact I have no respect for. It is for the kindness, and age of before that I let them push me this long. Regardless they have made no sense chance to secure such. It is for this reason I am putting my foot down.

Neither Spain, Castille, or England has my permission to attack the other. The first that does is in breech of treaty and friendship. I request now Spain return their dip to friendly, allowing any English to pass by in peace. With the fore knowledge Ireland will drop everything if they have to and come fight down there. Greg I request all your armies return home, or to battles in the North. Charles I request you pass this on to Castille in hopes they are wise enough not to try my patience more!

Finally at the conclusion of my war in the North. I will personally attend to this matter of the shires on the Penn. I will personally aide in overseeing a competition of sea battles between the three nations over the official ownership of the lands that are currently under Irish interest! Since Spain and Castille will not aid our efforts in the North. I now take back my decision. Gregory and England may hold on to the Silver shire to help in funding their parts in this war.

Any of the three nations who so decide to deny me this. Shall officially be deciding to loose a friend and ally. As well as earning my wrath, and desire to completely destroy them. Understood?"

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 12:47:48 --- 1 Week ago
Gregory I wrote:

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England is closing the borders for Ireland. Move your armies from our lands or will be attacked.
And remove me fro this CF, we are not allies anymore.

Re:Allies 15.08.2010 23:00:29 --- 6 Days, 18 Hours ago
Molly wrote:

QUOTE:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "Gregory you do not command me. See it's ok for you, but not for any others to make requests nice double standard. If you want from this CF you have ability to do on your own. I will not play your servant any further. Grow up a little will you? Sweet you wish to take on Ireland and Spain all by your lonesome with a little nation? Not wise at all! You have one more day to get a grip on your anger. This is the umpteenth time you have threatened Ireland for your pride! Eventually I will tire of this game with so little in return!"

Re:Allies 16.08.2010 05:30:35 --- 6 Days, 12 Hours ago
Molly wrote:

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"I have had enough. England, Spain, Moors, and Leon have been kicked out of this conference room. I shall not be forced into their squabbling. I will stop it!"

Re:Allies 16.08.2010 06:12:26 --- 6 Days, 11 Hours ago
Molly wrote:

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"I have released five of our horse riders, and some of them are Iarlas from the Irish army with orders to return home, and work on restoring our lands and defenses. This leaves over twenty in the army to help in the war effort. Eventually I shall release some more. With both England and Spain acting sooo childish I trust neither. For this I remain to aide in the effort. I do hope you will realize we are slightly weaker now. Some of my best fighters went bye bye." :(

Portions of letters between Charles and Molly:

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16.08.2010 04:35:56 --- 6 Days, 12 Hours ago
you will not parcel out land there as if you own it.

In response to your earlier messages, since Spain's contribution to your war is not appreciated or recognized by your Majesty... I will bring my soldiers home and consider their mission over. You may assume responsibility for maintaining that which they guarded from now on.

Should the King of England wish to shatter his armies against our spears we shall greet him in kind, as is our right. And should the nations of Iberia wish to throw out an invader... this too is our right.

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Re:Formal Protest 16.08.2010 04:40:50 --- 6 Days, 12 Hours ago
You betrayal of me was noted days ago. You too will gain the same return. You broke our treaty, and now gain a new enemy. Congratulations almighty king of Spain, may all hail your greatness. Now get off Irish land.

The treaty between Ireland and Spain:
03.05.2010 08:43:47 --- 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
-Should either nation come under attack, the other will defend its territory as if it were its own.

-This treaty does not require joining in offensive operations.

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To the Irish,

Thank you for proving my point even while carefully avoiding everything else that was being said? Though a side note:

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Spanish army is near my border, he plan carefully the moment,

Indeed I did choose my time very carefully, after I had allowed them to pass through my lands and safely, as you requested, back home when I could have trapped them in Iberia and attacked them far earlier. But no, I put my faith in yourself as you had requested me to do over a year ago that you would see this put right. Not only did you not, but from Gregory's reaction I can only conclude that you never even mentioned it to him as a problem you ignored it because you didn't see my concerns as worth your consideration so long as your needs and desires were carried out. It is typical of the way you have approached your allies that you acted in this manner towards them and why you find yourself losing them.

However, please keep trying to convince me you didn't break our treaty yourself, then try to blame it on me, then threaten to attack Spain and then deny it.... it is amusing me, and I have not laughed this loud or well in ages. Perhaps you missed your calling my lady. But never fear, I'm sure you have a lovely career waiting for you as Gregory's court jester?

When you are ready to stop playing he said she said, take responsibility for your actions and behavior, then we shall have something to say to each other. Alas, like waiting for the pig to fly, I fear I will have a long time to wait.

-Charles Hart
-Rey de Espania

Another message received and read. Then sat down and wrote:

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Regent,

How has molly or Ireland actually broken or canceled the treaty?
(Officially mind you)

Second how has Molly never honored the treaty?
Has Spain made an official request for Ireland to help them defend due to an attack upon Spanish lands?

Majestic
Chancellor of Ireland

Sends it off on the leg of the Black Raven.

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Regent,

Her breaking of the treaty was much clearer than ours when she declared it null and void, and herself our enemy. That seems pretty clear on all particulars doesn't it?

Your second point was and has been answered before you asked the question.

-Charles Hart
-Rey de Espania

Regent,

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Let me clarify this...it was YOU nullified the treaty based on this the previous letter that was sent to you:

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The treaty between Ireland and Spain:
03.05.2010 08:43:47 --- 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
-Should either nation come under attack, the other will defend its territory as if it were its own.

-This treaty does not require joining in offensive operations.

YOU attacked us so YOU nullified the treaty.

Please humor those you rape, by answering the question.
Indeed where had Spain been under attack?
Where had Spain been actually attacked at all?
Who attacked Spain physically on their land?
When, who, and where?

Majestic
Royal Seal

Sent with the Black Raven.