"How should petitions be made:

1. State your claims in a polite and respectful way, bringing evidence and solid arguments;

2. When you bring arguments refraining from posting subtle or obvious insults;

3. Don’t be cynical;

4. If you are a third party getting involved in the discussion it is preferable if you are a witness, not someone who attempts to take advantage of the situation in order to hurt a person out of personal grudge;

5. Don’t flame (the most widespread problem);


I hope this was clear for everyone. These are in fact common-sense rules, but which are constantly broken every time there is a problem with a player in the Tavern.

*claps loudly. Nice and useful, buddy!

/me agrees 200%
Make this sticky. Even better, everyone who tries to post a petition should get redirected here here first

All are good and beautiful, except as far as I know the petitions are addressed to the Council of Knights, not to the mods. If the Council of Knights members consider the petition brings enough evidence and people support it, they move it in Claims and vote.

This part of the board is The Council of Knights.

And if you want to be precise, first you should point out what can be targeted with the petitions, it must be a Council of Knights job. If it's not there in the list, the petition is not valid.

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Tasks of the Council

* unbalancing in the game engine
* community: player vs. player
* evidence of multi-using
* announcement of this incidents at the board

Lets see who claps now

Its about the petitions regarding the behavior in the Tavern Greg, not about the behavior in general . Since the RP-Mods have this task as well (whether they took it on themselves or not) and since petitions regarding that subject have been made lately, than I think its only proper to establish rules of conduit. Plus, whether the petition is made to the Council or the Admins it has little relevance, what matters is to petition using some common-sense rules.

I should not have made this post in the first place because any educated person should have known these things already, but since they are not known, than informing is the best way.

Btw I will edit the post if it makes everyone feel better. Don't really care who makes the petition against whom, what I care about is for future petitions to be made a little better than the ones before.

There isn't such thing as petitions to the Mods, it's only petitions to the Council of Knights.

If it's against a mods decision, the mods decide already, why somebody would make a petition to them?
It's logical to make a petition to the Council of Knights regarding a mods decision if somebody feels he was mistreated.
The mods job is to attend to the board, not to attend to the community of the players, thats the Council of Knights job. You should not mix things, really..

Alar I agree with you that discussions need a little more structure and politeness. I would like to suggest council and mods work together implementing a form of parliamentary procedure allowing for a little more respect and order.

Molly wrote:

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I would like to suggest council and mods work together implementing a form of parliamentary procedure allowing for a little more respect and order.

No, Greg is right. Each has its own responsibilities and they must not be mixed.

However, the common-sense stuff posted above still stand regardless of the situation.

Nobody says nothing about common-sense, I even can add a few more such "rules" from my large eventful experience of breaking them, but those are not rules, rules are the ones written as Game-Rules, but recommendations.

Even in my unsuccessful attempt to clarify the way RP rules are applied by the mods I didn't pretend such clarifications are rules, but merely a Conduit Code helping the RP mods to apply the rules in the same way in similar cases and for all of us a better understanding, in order to have a better RP and avoid unnecessary complaints filling the RP mods inbox.

Well, since you insist, with claps or no claps, let me tell ya affirmations like this are hilarious:

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6. And finally: the decisions of the mods are final. It does not matter if you are in the Council of Knights, or if you are a King, the decision is final and the only one who can overrule it Hoern;

How the decisions are final, if can be overruled? What use to make a petition if the decision is final and irrevocable?
Mods are still human, they can be tired, have a bad day like anybody, not to mention sometimes they are overloaded with moderation and complaints, especially RP mods. How can be such a decision irrevocable?
Council of Knights who suppose to defend the player's rights can overrule by vote such decisions if they consider the player was mistreated. Finally is for the admin. to validate the Council vote or the mods decision.

But if you want to write a guide about how to make a petition, get claps and sticky, you should refer to the Game-Rules about petitions in the first place [/b] like the target range of the petitions, who is addressed the petitions, the way the petitions are solved and only after that you can make suggestions about respecting general rules of posting in the board and other recommendations you think are useful, based on common-sense.

Because it's sticky with claps, I would ask the author to make the necessary corrections as suggested