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New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 17:19:04 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
Car -> Car/Carica
Princ -> Despot/Despotica
Knez -> Vlastelin/Vlastelin
Vlastelin -> Vitez/Dama

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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 17:51:45 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
explanation:

Despot was a Byzantine title of high-ranking emissary, and it was adopted by self-proclaimed Car (Emperor) Dusan of Serbia as well, since Serbia very much looked up to Byzantine Culture in combination with its Slavic tradition.

Vlastelin was our name for a nobleman, Vitez is a name for a knight.


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:05:49 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
Certainly an improvement - the current situation with both brown and green meaning "Prince" is rather odd.

Female of Despot is probably nothing, but for the purposes of the game I guess Despota?

Female of Vlastelin is Plemkinja?

Female of Vitez is ?? Dama?
 
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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:10:13 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
i dont like it.
but i think smelgar that was Despot-Despina for woman.

Plemkinja is ok.

Vitez has no female option. In todays serbian language we still use male titles no matter woman has it,some minor exeptions and some feminists minor organisations blabbering of different.

so Vitez is a vitez.


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:29:01 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
despot-despotica?

I wonder if there are any historical examples of despotica?

I understand both "despotica" and "kraljica" (=Queen) are Serbian brandies...
 
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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:32:40 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
Despotica is logic,but as i know they used Despina for despot's wife so...

there was no female ruler so dont know how will they say,but if Despot wife is Despina,probably the same.


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:41:25 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
I'd say Despotica and Dama for female Vitez - as Lady is for ENG female Knight


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 18:45:39 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
make a full list Ljudislav

Male ruler title - Female ruler title
Male chancellor title - Female chancellor title
Male count title - Female count title
Male knight title - Female knight title.

it would be easier if you did it like this and not make changes throught the comments here


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 20:33:43 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
I edited the frist post


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Re:New titles [Serbia]      12.10.2011 21:44:16 --- 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
Despotica is the right term, proof:
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%88%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%91%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%9B


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