Dear all,

can you stop somehow this sick Accusations against the Polish. I am tired and I am sick when I only open KH and see next new few topics about how Poland is bad and all other countries (which are now very small and so poor) are so good and fight for good side. It is not RP it is not fun .... it is sick how each of the guys attack Poland especially repeating lies about how Poland destroy other small countries or was aggressor to any one. LOL I am playing this game from a while only in Poland ... and I can't remind time where Poland was aggressor and declare war to anyone .... we fight always when someone declare war to us (or usually simple attack us without any declarations) or we fight because of ally agreement. Why the hell others attack us and later on when Poland with allies win the war we are the bad guys?!?! STOP this hypocritical behaviour! Or at least If you like this so much do this in one topic and make the conversation between all of you and feed yourself with all this lies.

And please do not hide behind balcan War which was not over - it was over ... we all want peace so we make and all was sign ... do not hide behind good Christian behaviour because there is non of such behaviour when big coalition attack from each side (EAST, WEST, SOUTh ... we wait for Fins and Denmark from North) when we just sign peace with most of the aggressors, there is no honor to declare war the same day when enemy armies go inside our country ..... and finally don't hide behind stupid reasons ... say honestly that you want revenge and that's all, your attack is not prepared .. it was prepared long time ago you bring Fins (maybe Norway also) near Denmark border, Pechenges wait a long time on our west border ... wait for orders form Saxony (from Finland ? ), Rostov tell me who is here puppet he ?

Finally did you even read how the King of Rostov call our King ? Do you also write to the King/Queen of other country "whore" ?!?! Do you ?!?

If someone would write to your king/queen in such way ... what would you do ? You would not fight for honour of your King ?! It looks you would not.

Ok that's all .... sorry for this long complaint ... but I really get sick of this horrible diplomacy game and blaming which you do.... so many of our people go away because of that ... it looks this is your best weapon

Best regards to all of you.
Witold

What about when you interfered in Burgundy Serbian war when you attacked Croatia? First of all, your RP reason for war was ZERO. Second of all, Poland declared itself as protector of peace and as far as i remember didnt do anything to help Burgundy, not even tried to talk to Serbia. Third I will say only one thing: England.
They were in war with Scandinavia and you decided how it would be good to kill something. And not to mention your not even anounced attacks on Pechies. So cut the crap about you being so "good" and "honourable" .

What is it now? You're gona get over runed like you used to over run others and now you're whining and complaining? What did you expect with that aditude that Poland is "God" nation that can do whatever it wants?

England got raided because of their war with Scandinavian nations, they are our friends. Also, they insulted our leaders. That cannot be accepted. We gave them a chance to apologize and everything would be fine. They rejected that. They knew what will their words and actions lead to. They were aware of what we can do, and yet still, they wanted war with us. When we came to their island, instead of apologizing, they kept their insults. It was their own fault, that they got burned to the very last shire.

We joined the Balkan conflict because of Serbia. This war was too equal, and we wanted to end it. By making one of sides win. We knew, that Serbia wont surrender. If it wasn't for our action, the war would still go on for God know how long.
And we DID try to talk to Serbia. But everyone know why did they fought, so we couldn't persuade them to stop.

Which attacks on Pechengens? We fought them numerous times, mostly we were defending our borders or good name.

Also, you don't have any RP reason for most recent attack on Poland. Rostov attacked our ally Kiev making false statements, and then, us. We have counter attacked on them. That's all. Now you attack us for no reason.

Nope i dont attack for no reason, I continue war you started on Croatia and then "proclaimed" peace and cf.
Thats what im talking about, you cant just come and tell this will be like that and end of story....

I repeat question. WHY didn't you help Burgundy when Serbs attacked them

Borna don't be funny and don't ask funny questions. Burgundy from long long time which you probably don't now from time where was SRI and Poland left this SRI Burgundy was more or less enemy of Poland ... they always join to wars started by Saxony vs Poland or polish allies. So why Poland should defend enemy ? Even Jjah make his own RP where he try to help defend peace and order near polish borders he never says he will do this for whole world or even whole Europe ... even it was RP he make this quite realistic so it was obvious that Poland will not be sherif of whole Europe (and it was never the plan to be such guy). After all his RP and his tryies go him to this diplomacy swamp this accusions etc and he left .... his account is used by his cousin or someone who is only one day clicker so.... like I sad don't be funny.

You war which you continue was stoped when you and your allies sign the peace treaty... but you know that.

And finally I do not write this topic to discuss here not in diplomacy .... just be honest say true you want attack us and beat us because of revenge ... and that's all. Ahh and most important don't create many topics in diplo where you blame Poland. Defender of own and allies lands!

Of course I dont like you and want to beat you as probably you dont like me


Then why did you open this thread if you don't want to disscus it?

Ah, a quick note on a number of things as I don't have time now:

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I can't remind time where Poland was aggressor and declare war to anyone

Yep, the last time you raided the Pechenegs you did not declare a war, so your statement is technically true - you WERE aggressor, but did not declare war while invading others. And to my knowledge the Crimea is not Poland. Ah, and the all too noble Polish ally Bavaria, that attacks us without any declarations of war.

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when big coalition attack from each side (EAST, WEST, SOUTh ...

For three weeks you were fighting only one front against a nation that does not have a single heavy charger. You did not win and we had time to gather support.

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Finally did you even read how the King of Rostov call our King ? Do you also write to the King/Queen of other country "whore" ?!?! Do you ?!?

Ah, you have short memory. Poland has called Avis the same thing a while ago. We are the ones who could use that as a reason, not you. Expect to be treated as you treat the others. And how you could call other country's monarch - see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

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England got raided because of their war with Scandinavian nations, they are our friends.

Same thing here, replace England with Poland and Scandinavia with Smolensk.

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We joined the Balkan conflict because of Serbia. This war was too equal, and we wanted to end it. By making one of sides win. We knew, that Serbia wont surrender. If it wasn't for our action, the war would still go on for God know how long.

Peacekeeping in the best traditions of an empire.

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Which attacks on Pechengens? We fought them numerous times, mostly we were defending our borders or good name.

The last one, when you took 357. No declaration of war, no nothing.

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Also, you don't have any RP reason for most recent attack on Poland. Rostov attacked our ally Kiev making false statements, and then, us. We have counter attacked on them. That's all. Now you attack us for no reason.

That is quite funny. You see, officially, in all the RP done on the Diplomacy board, there is NO mention of any allied status between Kiev and Poland. However, you keep knights with Polish names there and migrate knights to Poland from time to time, keeping them as a buffer. We are not stupid and to be honest having Russian peasants under your rule is not nice (RP reasons alone, I am not a Russian IRL). The way you jumped to defending Kiev with no RP reason, no allied treaty or anything, is the best way to prove that we are right in our deductions. You just showed your face without thinking about it.

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Poland. Defender of own and allies lands!

You used Kiev in the worst possible way, you did not help them but send them on a suicidal mission against us in order to protect your own skin and shires. You could have restored Kiev in a week if you wanted to help them and not protect yourself. The funny thing is, I have not quite planned for attacking Polish shires before you invaded Smolensk. Things changed a but though

Ah, a quick note on a number of things as I don't have time now:

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I can't remind time where Poland was aggressor and declare war to anyone

Yep, the last time you raided the Pechenegs you did not declare a war, so your statement is technically true - you WERE aggressor, but did not declare war while invading others. And to my knowledge the Crimea is not Poland. Ah, and the all too noble Polish ally Bavaria, that attacks us without any declarations of war.

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when big coalition attack from each side (EAST, WEST, SOUTh ...

For three weeks you were fighting only one front against a nation that does not have a single heavy charger. You did not win and we had time to gather support.

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Finally did you even read how the King of Rostov call our King ? Do you also write to the King/Queen of other country "whore" ?!?! Do you ?!?

Ah, you have short memory. Poland has called Avis the same thing a while ago. We are the ones who could use that as a reason, not you. Expect to be treated as you treat the others. And how you could call other country's monarch - see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

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England got raided because of their war with Scandinavian nations, they are our friends.

Same thing here, replace England with Poland and Scandinavia with Smolensk.

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We joined the Balkan conflict because of Serbia. This war was too equal, and we wanted to end it. By making one of sides win. We knew, that Serbia wont surrender. If it wasn't for our action, the war would still go on for God know how long.

Peacekeeping in the best traditions of an empire.

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Which attacks on Pechengens? We fought them numerous times, mostly we were defending our borders or good name.

The last one, when you took 357. No declaration of war, no nothing.

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Also, you don't have any RP reason for most recent attack on Poland. Rostov attacked our ally Kiev making false statements, and then, us. We have counter attacked on them. That's all. Now you attack us for no reason.

That is quite funny. You see, officially, in all the RP done on the Diplomacy board, there is NO mention of any allied status between Kiev and Poland. However, you keep knights with Polish names there and migrate knights to Poland from time to time, keeping them as a buffer. We are not stupid and to be honest having Russian peasants under your rule is not nice (RP reasons alone, I am not a Russian IRL). The way you jumped to defending Kiev with no RP reason, no allied treaty or anything, is the best way to prove that we are right in our deductions. You just showed your face without thinking about it.

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Poland. Defender of own and allies lands!

You used Kiev in the worst possible way, you did not help them but send them on a suicidal mission against us in order to protect your own skin and shires. You could have restored Kiev in a week if you wanted to help them and not protect yourself. The funny thing is, I have not quite planned for attacking Polish shires before you invaded Smolensk. Things changed a bit though

Then tell me what kind of relationship is between Saxony and the Finns hmm?
Or between England and Denmark?
Yes, it's a fact, that mostly poles were in charge in Kiev, but so what? It acted as an independent state, Poland never had any material gains from that nation. I see nothing wrong in this situation. People migration is cool. For example: Alar I. Former ruler of Russians and French, then he became Muslim and rule somewhere around Egypt. Is something wrong about that? It's pretty much the same situation as in Kiev. You cannot stop players, no matter where they are from to play where they want.

Attack on P's was either a mistake, or a result of war that never ended with treaty. I remember such a situation, but I'm not sure, if it's the current one, or the previous conflict with them.

We fought one front, but in the same time we were threaten in the south, big army was at our borders all the time, If we'd take whole army of ours, you'd be done already.

But Smolensk is the attacker, not defender. They aided you in your attack against Kiev and Poland, they are the invaders. Scandinavians were the defenders after some wicked RP of English talking some rubbish about "Viking pirates" which did never exist. So we defended Scandinavians, and when James started yapping, we had to silence him.

Relax. It's just natural. You're the big and mighty country and able to beat any nation, so there is constant potential for fights. I've never heard a diplomat stating, that his country is the evil one. Just don't care about it.
Besides I don't see any way the Council could help here.

But if it makes you happy, I'll tell you, that I don't think Poland is evil or unfair or whatever. And I say this although the only reason I was asked to join KH again was to fight against Poland.