I have no problems with the saying, I say that the manner he presented it (meaning in which topic), it is insulting.

False accusations were always a part of real life, also a part of KH life, it`s quite unrealistic to try to live without them ... One should just try to outsmart his prosecutors in RP in my opinion ...

Yep, old players already know the truth about any accusation (and of course many of us don`t give ... more than deserve about what old SRI members say), but new players can rely only on what they find and read in forum - so just try to be smarter than your enemy. The game is partially strategy, but RP is also a very important factor - so even great nations should be more careful in diplomacy and RP ...


---

Isolde Donarsdotter wrote:

QUOTE:
Ban Matej Moreplovac wrote:

QUOTE:
Poland recieves help from Serbia and Vikings....

What vikings Ban Matej?:huh:

Isolde, let me quote KHpedia:

QUOTE:
Vikings are fierce north warriors, with good hearts, long beards and sharp axes ... they always fought against tyranny ... their most bitter enemy was Sacrum Imperium Romanorum - the ugliest face of tyrany ever known in our world. Historians say that remains of SRI were scattered all over the world, and their secret leaders are trying to exploit any lack of attention of any nation in order to subdue those nations to their final purpose - world domination
Some historians pretend that there are groups of Saxony and England knights who settled in north in order to follow the path of vikings, but those rumors are still unproved ... Some sources told us that there are more chances to be just an SRI strategic long-time shot

Coming back to Scotland, there are some dense forests in the southern part, but Glasgow, Edinburgh and the other old towns should be the attraction in the autumn.
It looks like you are back in time, really..

Hahaha.. the KHpedia mention also about the Pamplonian christian suddenly becoming red haired viking Odin worshiper, Isolde.
Geez, some people changing nations, religions and the description of their character often than the shirt should have some decency..
But of course not what KHpedia write is absolutely true.

Witold Cienkobrody wrote:

QUOTE:
Dear all,

can you stop somehow this sick Accusations against the Polish. I am tired and I am sick when I only open KH and see next new few topics about how Poland is bad and all other countries (which are now very small and so poor) are so good and fight for good side. It is not RP it is not fun .... it is sick how each of the guys attack Poland especially repeating lies about how Poland destroy other small countries or was aggressor to any one. LOL I am playing this game from a while only in Poland ... and I can't remind time where Poland was aggressor and declare war to anyone .... we fight always when someone declare war to us (or usually simple attack us without any declarations) or we fight because of ally agreement. Why the hell others attack us and later on when Poland with allies win the war we are the bad guys?!?! STOP this hypocritical behaviour! Or at least If you like this so much do this in one topic and make the conversation between all of you and feed yourself with all this lies.

And please do not hide behind balcan War which was not over - it was over ... we all want peace so we make and all was sign ... do not hide behind good Christian behaviour because there is non of such behaviour when big coalition attack from each side (EAST, WEST, SOUTh ... we wait for Fins and Denmark from North) when we just sign peace with most of the aggressors, there is no honor to declare war the same day when enemy armies go inside our country ..... and finally don't hide behind stupid reasons ... say honestly that you want revenge and that's all, your attack is not prepared .. it was prepared long time ago :) you bring Fins (maybe Norway also) near Denmark border, Pechenges wait a long time on our west border ... wait for orders form Saxony (from Finland ? :) ), Rostov tell me who is here puppet he ?

Finally did you even read how the King of Rostov call our King ? Do you also write to the King/Queen of other country "whore" ?!?! Do you ?!?

If someone would write to your king/queen in such way ... what would you do ? You would not fight for honour of your King ?! It looks you would not.

Ok that's all .... sorry for this long complaint ... but I really get sick of this horrible diplomacy game and blaming which you do.... so many of our people go away because of that ... it looks this is your best weapon :(

Best regards to all of you.
Witold

My dear friend , we face the same in AE as Romans .. .We have never attacked other tribe over there in order to conquer, we were always attacked and raided first, and when we retaliate and win, stones are thrown against us etc ... When we help our allies, same goes on ... Don't bother yourself with this, just play your game.

I will not mention few so called allies of Serbia here, who deceived us and only used the alliance with us to get near your borders with a hidden agenda written many weeks ago ... We all can witness that this was planned long time ago and stretches from Saxony to Rostov ...

What I can say to them is: "You Reap What You Sow "

I call all righteous nations to fight against witch hunts like this one, and defeat the liars and deceivers wherever they come from.

And in RP, Poland has here used the last time to try to destroy the good reputation build up by Jjah in his early times. So many nations only doesn't dare to complain loudly, as no nation can currently stand against Poland alone.

Let us take our relations with your errors, mine can be found also as easy I must confess:
(1) JJah announced to stop any warmonger, but never interfered with Ljudislav
(2) Jjah lied to Burgundy when he said that Hungary will not attack us. Also no polish reaction on the second time a warmonger attacked us.
(3) You confirmed that Poland tried to end the war but know that Serbia will not end, so the others must (more distrust)
(4) OOC knowledge: Poland extended the war on purpose. (My guess to particpate in it). Ljudislav accepted the request from JJah, our coalition noted you that we sign if Serbia accepts and the polish nation decided to keep this information for themself.
(5) Maria openly confessed that the murderes must be punished, but only those on one side (the one you like less)

So, I think in RP are only between Burgundy and Poland enough reasons to flame your characters and your KH nation or for an ingame war.

Not that this post will change anything, just to give you an impression about other nations perception of your peace- and trustful nation.

Anyway, my point is, this is a game, a strategy, we all have cool RP's , let's just keep it civilized and don't insult each other.

If that is a reason for this thread in Petitions I support it, not only for the Polish, but to all nations too, I do not hold any nation here "evil" or "bad" ...

And off course, in love and war, everything is possible

So guys and girls, let's play ...

Sir Denis Cicic wrote:

QUOTE:
Anyway, my point is, this is a game, a strategy, we all have cool RP's , let's just keep it civilized and don't insult each other.

If that is a reason for this thread in Petitions I support it, not only for the Polish, but to all nations too, I do not hold any nation here "evil" or "bad" ...

And off course, in love and war, everything is possible :)

So guys and girls, let's play ...

This shouldnt be in "Petitions" topic at all....

Denis de Fecamp wrote:

QUOTE:

(5) Maria openly confessed that the murderes must be punished, but only those on one side (the one you like less)

In the contrary to you, who didn't want to punish anyone at all

The way I see it, we all like to distance ourselves from crimes when waging wars here, we destroy shires and such, battle, but I noticed on several ocassions supposed orders from the Monarchs to their knights "do not to harm peasants" ( )
The issue in this last Grand War was that Ban Moroplovac actually RP-ed the crimes against peasants, so there was and actual 'crime' sort to speak to be addressed, while the 'crimes' of the Serbs were (much before Derg's stunt) also targeted by your faction as murderers, even tho we didn't RP anything as such. (basically, you godmoded about our acts)
Bottom line was, there was intent on your side due to Ban's RP, and there was none on ours (prior to Derg's controversial and debatable act where he humiliated the "previous criminals", but again, did not RP killing)

That was the main standard for our diplomacy struggle afterwards
Somehow I think if Ban didn't RP that, things would go much rougher for us.

As a author of this topic ... please mod close it. It will lead nowhere ...

Zmeu wrote:

QUOTE:

Isolde, let me quote KHpedia:

QUOTE:
Vikings are fierce north warriors, with good hearts, long beards and sharp axes ... they always fought against tyranny ... their most bitter enemy was Sacrum Imperium Romanorum - the ugliest face of tyrany ever known in our world. Historians say that remains of SRI were scattered all over the world, and their secret leaders are trying to exploit any lack of attention of any nation in order to subdue those nations to their final purpose - world domination
Some historians pretend that there are groups of Saxony and England knights who settled in north in order to follow the path of vikings, but those rumors are still unproved ... Some sources told us that there are more chances to be just an SRI strategic long-time shot

There is a KHpedia existing and no one told me?

About insultation, this is a game and think all we wanna have fun in here... but even this might be destroyed if someone takes his ooc differences in here, like the Poles did with the Finns conquering the castle a while ago short after I was able taking it instead of being (as good catholics) happy to have another catholic nation quite in the middle of the nordics...

Nearly same with Denmark, just they were more lucky with engine created catastrophies^^

So... what do you expect at all?

Over time you messed with a lot of Nations, each one standing alone against the polish would be suicide... but as said, you messed up with a lot and not just with one or two