I think you totally misunderstood Rostov CB on Kiev.

Kiev can have 100% knights of polish nationality IRL as far as we care, we have nothing against people of any nationality playing in any country they chose. Rostov itself is a mix of Russians and Bulgarians for the most part.

But we cannot accept a nation that is actually not a nation, but a polish proxy province by extension - with 0 diplomatic relations, a client-master relationship that is not even defined with diplomatic terms. We do not wage war to drive players of polish - or Ukrainian - nationality out of Kiev, we strive to remove the Polish dead grasp upon the country In game and make it an independent state ( or at least force them to sign official treaties with Poland - so far they haven't done that) Poland jumped into the war without any previous alliance or even correspondence confirming our theory. From our perspective Kiev was either a Polish proxy or a weak nation without friends or allies - easy prey.

As it is Kiev was just a large piece of Polish land that wasn't actually Polish, a land block of sorts - used as a CB on any "aggressor" that tried to wage war on Poland. A large country has the disadvantage of many shires to defend, but Kiev conveniently blocks passage to Poland from the East... Also the whole "we defend our friend" was a bucket of crap as even now Kiev shires are still not reclaimed after weeks of fighting and Rostov-Smolensk armies withdrawn.

What this thread is all about is hypocrisy, of which I have already said enough.

Total bullshit

Balian wanted to create an independent state, because he did not like Jjah, and he invite us from Renaissance kingdom. Diplomacy was conducted, the official and not official

When he decided to leave game, All active, literate etc, leave kiev for another nations.

if you manage to convince them to change the nation, I will be surprised, because I couldn't

Sirius z Kartuz wrote:

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So why not abandon the hypocrisy and play the Dark Ages of opportunism, backstabbing, shifting alliances and constant warfare on local scale and pillaging raids.

Are you joking? You didn't noticed any of these in this game?
Oh, and I will add something on peace. In my opinion, new players want some stability on the beginning, without it they can perceive the game as a waste of time, and it's a job of the nation to provide a good place to live in.

So you're saying you would prefer tons more sides, smaller. More like local warlords out for whatever they can get whether it's against people in their own "country" or not. At least that's what sounds like the dark ages to me.

I guess you could call me a new player. I've been around for a few months, but i have very little experience with anything. I've never been in a war. I fought a duel once, I run a shire and a fief. Running the shire isn't very exciting, I did like 1-2 upgrades and that's all I've done with it. I would think more knights would enjoy tournaments, buit as i said I don't really know anything.

I do prefer some stability for startng out I will say. If I can't build up my fiefdom a bit to get money income, how can I get decent armour and weapons to survive in battle? I will admit that this is kind of boring. Most days I can't do anything after logging in, nobody is in the tavern when i am online. There are 8 people online right now, lol. However every online game I've seen seems to be shrinking, the bad economy I think.