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Missing weapons      04.01.2012 08:53:33 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Hello everyone,

Not sure if anyone noticed but in a tournament there is no option to use the Long Spear or the Long Axe. The knights using these weapons can also not use the one-handed variants because their skill is not the same. In fact it's 45%.

Moreover, I also think the Saber should be implemented as well, even though a knight using the Saber has the same skill with the Sword. The difference lies in the weapon and I don't think it's fair to force a knight to use the Sword if he usually uses the Saber.

So I think all these weapons should be implemented in a tournament.

Waiting for more thoughts.

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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 10:09:22 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
In Duel everyone should use sword in Melee you can use your own weapon ;D

Or create Turney weapon like lance in joust

Turney sword, Turney Axe, long sword and long axe + shield and that's all

Each weapon skill is acquired like in joust, by fighting in tournaments


 
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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 10:13:33 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Alar I wrote:
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Not sure if anyone noticed but in a tournament there is no option to use the Long Spear

I don't have any personal experience with this weapon, but what is the skill transfer rate to halbert (long stake weapon)? That would seem the logical weapon to use in a tourney.

Alar I wrote:
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or the Long Axe.
No? Someone else recently said Long Axe was available in tourneys, but since I currently am not participating I can't look for myself. Who's in a tourney and can look it up?

Alar I wrote:
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Moreover, I also think the Saber should be implemented as well, even though a knight using the Saber has the same skill with the Sword. The difference lies in the weapon and I don't think it's fair to force a knight to use the Sword if he usually uses the Saber.
Considering the buying prices I would have assumed that a sword would be much better than an ordinary saber. Native weapons aren't used in tourneys on principle.

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Jata Lubomirski wrote:
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In Duel everyone should use sword :P
Who forgot or was not told to change the settings. Let's have it for ordinary swords against spears.

Jata Lubomirski wrote:
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in Melee you can use your own weapon ;D
You can? Is not sword the default setting for melee, too? I'm pretty sure I had to change my melee weapon away from sword for the melee in my last tourney.


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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 10:25:48 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
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In Duel everyone should use sword in Melee you can use your own weapon ;D


IMO should be, everyone must use sword in duel. only in melee you can use your own weapon(spear,axe etc.)


but personally I would prefer creation of other weapons


 
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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 10:39:52 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Jata Lubomirski wrote:
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In Duel everyone should use sword in Melee you can use your own weapon ;D


IMO should be, everyone must use sword in duel.

No! Not unless those usually using other weapons, such as spears, want to fight with 30 % skill!

For examples of people using other weapons than spears in a tournament duel see "In the honorable return of the Order of St.Mathew" http://knights-honor.com/component/option,com_ritter/Itemid,223/page,turnieranzeige/turnier,255 fight between Sir Denis Cicic and derg38 spear against axe (unfortunately spears never work well against axes ). I can't link directly to the tourney duel, for reasons I don't understand direct tourney fight links don't seem to work.

As far as I know in a tourney, after you have entered the tourney and once the tourney has begun (that is when the tourney has begun, but before the first fight has taken place) you have to change the default settings from sword both for duel and for melee.

For jousting you don't have to and can't change anything, you get the jousting lance and jousting shield for both of which you can gather skill in the tourney only and no where else.


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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 18:20:21 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Bella is correct

And in joust you can change your tactic as far as i know
 
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Re:Missing weapons      04.01.2012 19:23:55 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
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And in joust you can change your tactic as far as i know

That's right, I meant and poorly worded, that in the joust you have no choice in weapons.

You should change your tactic depending on whether you have a stallion, gelding or mare. Anyone riding a stallion may look forward to being thrown particularly often.


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Re:Missing weapons      06.01.2012 14:41:45 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
This is all well and good, but can we get back to the first point raised. I think most standard weapons (ie not nation specific) should be available for selection, yes some will share the same weapon skill types but knights will most likely want to participate using their own specific weapon type, the weapons they are used to.
 
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Re:Missing weapons      06.01.2012 18:54:53 --- 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Thats correct Dandarion, also the long version of each weapon should be available in turney.

Think that's caused by implementing the long axe and long spear much later then other weapons.

About the spear -> we may discuss a lot about. In fact I have never heard of a medieval turney in "muslimic northern Africa"-Nations, but being no expert in medival history of that area that time.


 
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Re:Missing weapons      10.01.2012 14:47:58 --- 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
Long Axe for tourneys would be nice
 
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