As you can see in The Nations history, it was not me or my account who has been abandoned the shires.
Taking in consideration that is clear a hacked attempt, I think it's for admin to restore the situation and not for the Council of the Knights.
What about 2000 silvers England have lost, how about my gear and war horse, how about my char. get back to the nation? Just restoring the shires is not enough. It's not our fault for what's happen!
Hoern, why don't you check the IP who hacked my account??

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16.November 1044 Knight CelianDArestide will not be restrained anymore. Order by bedivere on Lisbon.
Knight cloude arrives to the land.
Shire 576 (Lincoln) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 210 (Finnland) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 209 (Ostmark) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 126 (Brabant) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 125 (Holland) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 124 (Flandern) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 38 (Cornwall) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 37 (Winchester) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 35 (Norfolk) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 34 (Wessex) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 33 (Cambria) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 32 (Gloucester) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 31 (Wales) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 30 (Cheshire) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 29 (York) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.
Shire 28 (Humberland) has been abandoned. Imprisonments and restrainigs has been canceled.

14.November 1044 Knight James leaves the nation "England"
Knight Silvain was welcomed to the nation "England" by James

Viking axe, kite shield, banded kettle, steel guard + gauntlets, cuirass, steel greaves and a trained heavy war horse, that was what I had. And what about my fiefdom??
I think a 7 digit alphanumeric password is safe enough and I did not give away my password to anyone.

The Admin should do the right thing, restoring the situation from the data-base previously to the hacking attempt!

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And what about my fiefdom??
I think a 7 digit alphanumeric password is safe enough and I did not give away my password to anyone.

If the thief was stupid you may get it back for free (since you left the Nation your own). If he/she sold it you will have a lot of silver buying a (hopefully well upgraded) new one.

About a safe pw you better check several online pw-testing tools, there to be found more then enough within the www, by way, it is often recommended using a pw with 8 or more characters.

So it is? Somebody hacked more than one account, do the worse and you are telling me to check my password.
Well, my password is medium safe and this is not a bank account to use a strong one.
I'll tell you this: it is not my fault that my account and other accounts was hacked and it's for the admin to restore the things.

I did take care of my password in the terms of the game, so I expect apologies from you making foul accusations or you must prove that i give away my password or my account.
If you will not be able to do that, I'll ask for your suspension, in the terms of the game, for making such unbelievable accusations.

Another stupid thing Jessica vom Greifenstein wrote:

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Second point, abandoning a shire always takes place in scoring, so you can do it 5 mins after scoring, but this will take effect with next scoring... so yes James, it seems it was "you".

To make it clear for you, boy: It takes effect after scoring, but it’s written in The nation History in real time
As you can see in The Nation history, the shires was abandoned after my account leave it the nation.

I don`t see any reasons for any quarrel, as far as I can see almost everybody here try to help (mostly with advices, of course, because we can`t do much elase). I understand your anger, James, I agree this is a game and not a bank-account, I agree that only an idiot would cheat this way, but maybe there are no reasons for apologies.

Hoern will restore things as much as possible, if I remember right is impossible to do all because he will manually change some fields in the game files. I don`t know about your horse and your equipment but i`m pretty sure it is possible (at least) to give you the fair amount of silver to buy new ones.

As I said before - we should not allow such incidents to convince players to run away from this game.

Yes James, so it is!

Am I able to check if your PC is free of virus/spyware?
No.
Am I able to know your having a low, medium, high safety?
No.

Is it a bank account?
No, but you also had no "real" losses, so maybe its better drinking a cup of tea before you continue writing personal insultings.

As soon your shires are restored, try your own and you will see a shire is abandoned in scoring!

By way, since Zmeu pointed out, losses of the "Knight James" are not part of the petition, so you will have to create a petition your own (don't forget to add reset of the joining a Nation block).

Some people hacked the Pentagon's computers. I wonder their PCs was free of virus/spyware?

Did they having a low, medium, high safety?

Blaming James only seems a silly vendetta to me.

As far as i can see Jessica provided tech-details (and I can confirm her statements)
Even so it`s almost impossible for me to understand why James would do such a thing so i am quite sure that is not James`fault
We can`t be sure if his account was hacked because of his own low safety or spies or if the site was hacked (more situations are possible in my opinion but almost all situations I can figure doesn`t give us the right to consider James is to be blamed).
Even is Jess could be technically right about another petition we could also consider the moral view of facts: the hacker action results should be completed annihilated by restoring all possible stats : of England as nation and the stats of all England warriors as players, and in this case maybe we don`t need another claim.

About this quarrel between 2 game veterans - in our country there is a saying : " the smarter guy just give up" ... so just stop it now, I expect from you to come with something better (a quarrel in diplomacy forum for example , more interesting for all of us, if you really need a quarrel)

Under the impression everyone was spreading of "hurry up and list England's shires that need to be restored" I neglected to include James in the first petition and am working on correcting that oversight, I merely need James to get back online and provide some additional information.

England restored. Close!